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stelisevil
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Posted: Monday 29th March 2004 01:13:03 BST, Post Subject: What would be the best ruleset for the DDRUK Regional Tournaments? |
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So,
a) Purely Stepping/PA/score
b) Purely Freestyling
c) A Mixture of Both
vote, and make sure you post with your reasons. Be wary of the type of participants. People from all over UK, STandard, Difficult and Expert players will be participating. Should there be divisions? Should there be different rules for each division?
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Cylipso
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Posted: Monday 29th March 2004 01:55:45 BST, Post Subject: |
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Whilst Getting perfects is all well and good, A bit of style often makes up for any mistakes made and proves that it's not about doing the whole step thing, it's *how* ya do it.
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Posted: Monday 29th March 2004 01:59:18 BST, Post Subject: |
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Just an additional note that I personally would like to see as many people reply before Thursday... but if you miss it dont worry 
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mimegenocide
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Posted: Monday 29th March 2004 02:18:50 BST, Post Subject: |
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i think that feestyle and pa should be seprate
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Posted: Monday 29th March 2004 02:24:18 BST, Post Subject: |
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OK, here are my thoughts:
You need a mixture of both. It isn't fair to have it one-sided when both ways will make it more creative.
Each level should have specific rules/requirements. Like this:
Standard
1) Can play ONLY standard, cannot play heavy or easy.
2) Must be able to play between Standard 5-7
Heavy
1) Can play all levels, passing with at least an A
2) Must be able to play between Heavy 7-9 and pass with minimum B
Free-styling
1) Can free-style to at least Standard 5
2) The more tricks you do, the better score you get
3) Both score and style boost up your grade
Then for all of them/miscellaneous rules:
1) Score counts as well as technique
2) If your technique fails, so does your grade
3) Both players have to know the song in order to play it
4) Have to play at the same level (Like, the Least 100Sec: standard 7:7, not Heavy 9: standard 7)
Hope that helps a bit.. 
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Pikachelsea
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Posted: Monday 29th March 2004 03:58:07 BST, Post Subject: |
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I agree with mimegenocide. Have two separate divisions for freestyling and PA, with separate sets of rules/judging criteria for each.
Maybe have a "Freestyle Division" (light, standard, and heavy) and a "PA Division" (light, standard, and heavy). Then, no matter what your skill level is, or what your preferred style of playing is, you can have a place in the tournament.
PA Division competitors would go purely by score -- no awarding "bonus points" if they didn't use modifiers or anything weird like that. Perhaps the PA Division could be divided further into two subdivisions: mods allowed, mods banned. The players can choose Singles or Doubles play, and the other person has to attempt whatever their opponent chose.
PA Rules:
1. If playing Singles mode, two players play on versus on the same song (needless to say, it would be same difficulty, since they'd have entered into the light, standard, or heavy division).
2. If playing Doubles, two players take turns playing the same song on doubles.
3. They compete for the best combined score out of 4 songs (or some even number that allows both players to choose the song the same number of times).
Freestyle Division competitors could be judged by how creative and innovative their moves/tricks are, how well those tricks are pulled off, and how much applause they get. Also, maybe they should get credit for freestyling to harder songs. It's hard to say how to judge though, of course, since any freestyle criteria is a bit subjective.
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Chi
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Posted: Monday 29th March 2004 12:14:01 BST, Post Subject: |
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"PA Division competitors would go purely by score"
Or better still... actually by PA (then [in case of draw] by GreatA, GoodA etc).
Rather than Light, Standard, Heavy divisions, I'd suggest segregating on feet ranking i.e. 3-5, 5-7, 7+
After all, Kung Fu Fighting Heavy << Mucho Mambo (Sway) Heavy << Legend of MaxX Heavy.
The freestyle section would need either a panel of people to judge, or alternatively a simple "mob rules" hand count (like on Ready Steady Cook!)
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Posted: Monday 29th March 2004 13:30:04 BST, Post Subject: |
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AH HAH! To be honest I am very suprised to see this kind of thing put to vote in what is essentially a PA community. (no offense to freestylers, I know you're out there) I think that a mixture of both is a great idea as it allows a much wider variety of play in tournaments hence breaking the boring old mould of OMG MAX300 for POINTZZZZ!!!!
A system where a player can 'specialise' in a certain are (i.e. score or FS) and the winners/progression are decided by crowd favorite would be the best system (who can argue against a whole crowd of clapping poeple?). This would be very much like the 'battle' system like in 8 mile(horrible townie film reference I know but bear with me), where two players basically will be out to impress the crowd the most (a great PA vs freestyle would be fair enough). And for those who would say that this would be unfair to the PAers due to freestyle looking better, perhaps judges basing winning decisions on the crowd would be more fair, and anyway, a great AA or AAA would be just as impressive as a decent freestyle.
There, thats my sick and twisted view on this matter ^_^
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mintsauce82
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Posted: Monday 29th March 2004 15:56:15 BST, Post Subject: |
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I like Pikachelsea's idea of having two separate divisions, one for freestyle and one for PA/Score attack. Last year when the regional tournaments were proposed the rules stated that you had to enter for both PA/Score and Freestyle in order to participate in the tournament, and this put me off completely. Those tournaments didnt materialise that summer anyway.
I also agree with Chi in that the tournament should preferably be PA, as that provides a better system of deciding who wins.
I voted PA only because that would be the only part of the tourney that i enter. However it would be good fun to see a freestyle tourney too.
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acerjenny
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Posted: Monday 29th March 2004 16:43:38 BST, Post Subject: |
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I agree with the separation of freestyle and PA, I don't think you can fairly compare the 2 in a competition. People have different preferences and I think it's good to encompass what different people want. I don't think there should be any rule saying that people have to do both and there should be a winner of each section.
For people proposing different skill levels, would you have a winner of each section (light/standard/heavy) or an overall winner using some kind of handicap system?
Also, another one to think over - how do you know that the people entering at standard level are really standard level players? I know people should be allowed to enter at whatever level they want, but it could be detrimental to 'real' standard level players if better players enter at that level just because they know they could win it easier (or is that just me trying to stop people better than me beating me if I enter??)
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